CRYPTIK-ONE: Hey Eve, can you please tell me the most common misunderstanding/misinterpretation from the Bible?
EVE: Most common misunderstanding from the Bible is of course, our Western misinterpretation of ‘hell’, and how it has been applied in Christianity, that you are simply ‘eternally separated from God’ etc. But in fact… hell does not exist in the way we are taught to believe. I can’t blame Church for attacking this because it was never part of early Christian doctrine, but it emerged as theology via late Jewish influence, and thus is not found in the very first writings of most of Jesus’ original disciples…. which became the basis of the Christian scriptural canon (New Testament).
So when I suggest ‘hell does not exist as we are taught’ it is important to remember that hell does in fact exist, but does not represent a literal, physical punishment for Christians. The biblical storyline of Christ’s sacrificial death and supposed ‘resurrection’, the various days of creation, and the ages we live in representing a ‘Sunday to Sunday’ existence via the Jewish week (the vast majority was not from Jesus original disciples). This did not mean people were being reincarnated in human form back to Earth over a series of lifetime – quite the opposite: Those who hold firm to the Law will disappear from the community’. In actuality most scholars agree that this refers to heaven, in which one enters during the afterlife.
The best description of Christian hell is by Mary Ann Collins, who referred to it as the ‘severest of all forms of disciplinary measures accompanying this physical phase in human evolution’. She maintained that ‘hell is a spiritual experience of extreme heat and torment which removes the victim from himself’.
CRYPTIK-ONE: What do you think is the most accurate depiction/description of “Hell”?
EVE: As we discussed during our correspondence, the hell event is more spiritual than physical; If you will recall ‘ the Third Funeral Rites of the Tibetan Book of the Dead ‘.
The Tibetan Book of the Dead refers to a Bardo Thodol, a manual for the dead and dying. According to the text, one passes through the death process by entering the Chikhai Gate and then on to the Chonyid Gate. We see that Christian Gnostics believed those who ‘held firm to the Law’ were in actuality held in place so as not to inherit any form of existence in which they could receive further (Geneseo) suffering altogether. The Buddhists go into great detail on what is referred to as the after death experience/state. One enters through the Chikhai Gate, or what I refer to as a ‘re-birth experience’, then to the Chonyid Gate … this is divided into three stages with 49 Bardos; The Tibetan Book of the Dead
CRYPTIK-ONE: I remember this. I feel this depiction has a direct connection to the Greek so-called “Mythological” description of the “Underworld”.
EVE: The Greek underworld is portrayed as being in the far west. This is an actual description of the death experience. Incidentally, the Tibetans created their own template from the myths of ancient Japan where the dying person’s soul traveled through nine levels to confront Yama, the Lord of Death.
CRYPTIK-ONE: Which Yama in Greek stories is Hades. The Greek Underworld consists of three different regions: Asphodel Meadows, Elysium, and Tartarus. With Asphodel Meadows being more of like a Purgatory or in Biblical terms Sheol. Elysium being more “heavenly” not unlike the Egyptian’s “Field of Reeds”. While Tartarus is more of the Hell described by Christianity.
EVE: I only wish to add here that the Old Testament is all about “Hell”, and it is in fact the story of souls, or monads not on the true path of Alchemical Ascension, who are harvested and placed into a body; I.E. … a clone vat for sustenance and decay.
CRYPTIK-ONE: OK you threw out some terms and ideas we are going to need to revisit later in our conversation. So back to “Hell”. . . I think the most accurate depiction can be derived from the ancient stories with the most contingencies as this is a simple logic based way of determining truth.
EVE: What is described as Hell often brings one to the furthest extent of the Alchemical process where one shall begin to see what’s really behind the deception. This is sometimes described by those who claim they can access near half-death experiences through meditation. Meditation is used to harness what some call the “Divine” sight so one can “see” behind the illusion and thus not be fooled by the lies, perceiving them for what they are.
CRYPTIK-ONE: I have died a few times myself. Aside from a direct experiential analysis. Let’s keep things along the lines of the so called mythological stories and drawing parallels.
EVE: The Hebrews modeled their description of the afterlife after the Sumerians from whose lore it was derived. According to Sumerian texts (Dilmun), Alchemical Ascension (the womb, or Great Hall of Records) was situated in an island paradise called Dilmun. In the Babylonian version of this tale, one must cross the ocean and beyond the horizon to reach it; i.e., it is a journey to the West. The inhabitants of Dilmun were joined by Enki as they too passed over to reside with the gods.
CRYPTIK-ONE: For the Egyptians this was the Duat. Are you familiar with the “Duat”?
EVE: The Egyptian underworld or Duat. The journey through the Duat is described in terms of a night-time voyage, leading through twelve realms of increasing danger and disorder. These are presided over by Osiris, the god of the dead, who judges the soul that stands before him. Are you aware of the sins that were committed by the ancient civilizations – all were destroyed?
CRYPTIK-ONE: As in the 42 sins in the Egyptian Book Of The Dead?
EVE: Yes 42 sins. The Sumerians had a similar book called “Erra and Ishum” which may indeed describe their annihilation. Entradins the underworld, though, there were seven gates each guarded by a fearsome monster reflecting the soul of those who would defy the gods and trespass this sacred realm. Those dead persons who made it safely past all seven gates had to confront Anubis, the god of mummification. Those who survived all of this and still maintained a free, pure soul were believed to be taken to the Isle of Fire or “the field of reeds” and live a life of eternal happiness.